Not liking ELLEN?!?!? yeah, life's too short for that sort of thing. My brother has this rule of thumb that 95% of what happens in an online community, no matter the type, dosen't matter. And if that last 5% starts to bug you, then it's time to leave. This is one of those times when he's right.

>And YAY for Jen the voice of reason :-) and normality!<
I'm going to save that and quote you as the need arises. :D